I'm looking to buy an airplane and I have a question to those peoples who owns the 172XP or 182. Which airplane of the two is better and why?? I will appreciate the feed back. Thanx...
I dont think that one is acutally better than the other, but there are some advantages that each model has over the other that may help you to decide which aircraft would best be suited for you.
I have the Hawk XP, and one of the reasons is because I prefer a fuel injection engine over a carb, so I dont have to worry about carb ice. Also with the fuel injected engine is the ability to better anaylize your fuel consumption because of the fuel flow gage. Along the same lines is that GAMI fuel injectors can drastically help fuel consumption and engine performance. The engine is rated at 195hp, and there is a STC out there that takes the engine back to the original 210hp that it was originally manufactured to before Cessna derated it. A 172 with a 195hp or 210hp engine is a screamer.
You may need to hear from others for reasons they may give for deciding one model over another. The bottom line is what your flying needs are, personal preferences and what you are willing to spend.
Another question is which of the two: the 172XP or 182 would do best in a tropical environment, and also taking into consideration the engines diminished performance due to humidity?
How does the 172XP perform with full capacity (4 adults) in hot whether conditions?
Is there a real significant difference in cost of operation or is it minimal?
If the difference in cost of operation is minimal is it worth then getting the 182 as opposed to the 172XP?
Pavel:
I own a 182RG and have flown the 172's a fair amount before I bought my 182. Now, to start with, my 182 is a 1983 and as such has some differences from eariler 182. But in general, the 182 is larger, has more hp, more cargo room, etc. My plane hold 92 gal with 88 usable which give me about 6.5 hours of flight. I have a 1300 lbs capacity for fuel, passengers and cargo. For my family, it's perfect. We are four (two guys, two gals) and can carry about 200lbs of luggage. Fuel burn is about 13 gal per hour--but because I'm an RG, I can get 155 knots. Even without the RG, you should get about 130 to 140 knots from a fixed gear 182 vs about 100 to 110 in a 172. Anyway, those are some of the reasons I bought the 182.
Greg
Saw your note about the virtues of a 172XP v. a 182... I owned an XP for several years and loved it, also. I now have a 182 and I like it tons.
How many hours on your engine, and have you ever lost an alternator in your IO-360KB? I started loosing alternators in mine at about 1500 hrs., three altogether as I recall. I wrote it off to the alternator overhaul... I later found out that higher time 360KB models have a habit of torqueing (shearing) the drive shaft off the alternator- they are direct drive as you know, not belt driven- and the last time the linkage from the alternator shaft fell down the accesory case and seezed up the oil pump... the rest was history! Luckily I was upwind and landed (dead-stick) no problemo... except of course for the $30,000 I spent on a factory overhaul.
I learned that this was not uncommon in that particular engine in fact, the shop that hung the new engine on it (N758PK) maintained several of the same plane for the Alabama Forest Service and saw it 2 other times over about 15 years, eek! I never learned if there was anything, short of Prayer, that one could do to prevent it. Have you heard of this and do you have any info? I'd like to pass it along to the new owner.
I loved that plane and they all have their little problems, no doubt. I hope all is well with yours, many hours of happy flying to you!!!
You have a very interesting question and it can get a quick answer. The 182 is more airplane for more money. If your budget can support a 182, Go For IT. The 182 is faster, more comfortable, more reliable and have 350 pounds more of payload. The 182 can be upgraded to 260 HP with fuel injection. So if you find one with a run out engine it may worth thinking about it. But only if the rest worth it. It is again a question of money. By the way both plane maintain their value very well. So, buying any one of the two represent a low risk if the right price is paid at the beginning. My recommendation to any body looking for a used airplane is to find one on which a lot of investment have been done recently. The owner is not going to recuperate his money and the new owner is the one who will enjoy it. Never buy a plane that need a new engine, new prop and some instruments. You can easily invest more in these three items than the cost of a good used plane in good condition. An airplane which is not in good flying condition worth 0$.
Ethiopian Airlines is in the process of buying two pre owned Cessna 172XP which are N registered.
We wish to export these aircrafts to Ethiopian after registering them under Ethiopian Registration.
Can you please explain what steps I should take to get export permit to export the two aircrafts with our own registration. Which government office shall I inform to get the export permit?
An age old question now, and one Cessna finally decided they could not answer and dropped the XP.
The only thing I wish to say is the XP has high compression (8.5 : 1) so you have to run 100 octane fuel. If this is a problem and you need to run auto fuel then the 182 is for you with a low compression O-470.
The IO-360 in the Hawk is a rewarding engine to fly behind, especially when fully rated to 210HP.
